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		<title>By: latest news</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-334170</link>
		<dc:creator>latest news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob McClean i agree with your points friend.</description>
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		<title>By: Sitestogo blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; cuil - a search engine with irish connections</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-333516</link>
		<dc:creator>Sitestogo blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; cuil - a search engine with irish connections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sarah carey&#8217;s original piece here  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob McClean</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-333422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob McClean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only just found this article (via a Cuil bashing story in The Register) and I have found it fascinating and annoying in equal measure.  Fascinating because who doesn&#039;t enjoy looking over the garden fence to see what the wealthier, cooler (cuiler?) neighbours are  up to now?  Annoying, because as part of a small group of guys who raised â‚¬8millon Euros of VC money in Dublin circa 2000, I never got to have as much fun frittering it away.  

In fact we didn&#039;t fritter it away - we pretty much did everything we said we were going to do, including running out of money, but that&#039;s another story. 

I have no doubt that the culture of freedom, relaxed working practices and putting an emphasis on fun in SV startups and tech companies has engendered a fair degree of innovation and creative thinking.  I just wonder though, have the vast amounts of VC cash swilling around the area for the last few decades masked the fact that the same level of innovation could have been developed in other ways.  Sometimes it seems that the first creative idea a SV startup CEO has is &quot;how do I burn all this cash in a new way&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only just found this article (via a Cuil bashing story in The Register) and I have found it fascinating and annoying in equal measure.  Fascinating because who doesn&#8217;t enjoy looking over the garden fence to see what the wealthier, cooler (cuiler?) neighbours are  up to now?  Annoying, because as part of a small group of guys who raised â‚¬8millon Euros of VC money in Dublin circa 2000, I never got to have as much fun frittering it away.  </p>
<p>In fact we didn&#8217;t fritter it away &#8211; we pretty much did everything we said we were going to do, including running out of money, but that&#8217;s another story. </p>
<p>I have no doubt that the culture of freedom, relaxed working practices and putting an emphasis on fun in SV startups and tech companies has engendered a fair degree of innovation and creative thinking.  I just wonder though, have the vast amounts of VC cash swilling around the area for the last few decades masked the fact that the same level of innovation could have been developed in other ways.  Sometimes it seems that the first creative idea a SV startup CEO has is &#8220;how do I burn all this cash in a new way&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-333345</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its only about 50 miles from San Francisco to San Jose.  And there is no town of Almaden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its only about 50 miles from San Francisco to San Jose.  And there is no town of Almaden.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff g</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-333332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you certainly have your work cut out for you. The product is a massive POS after having been reviewed by thousands on Cnet, TEchnow, Digg &amp; Reddit ect.... I personally used it and it couldn&#039;t even find its own name and forget about safe surfing. Sorry you got roped into this as I don&#039;t think even PR could pull this thing out of the toilet. Bad software is bad software. Unfortunately, those at the top will get the blame but hey, this is the Valley and everyone knows it takes a few failed models to find the giant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you certainly have your work cut out for you. The product is a massive POS after having been reviewed by thousands on Cnet, TEchnow, Digg &amp; Reddit ect&#8230;. I personally used it and it couldn&#8217;t even find its own name and forget about safe surfing. Sorry you got roped into this as I don&#8217;t think even PR could pull this thing out of the toilet. Bad software is bad software. Unfortunately, those at the top will get the blame but hey, this is the Valley and everyone knows it takes a few failed models to find the giant.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stinnett</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-333273</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stinnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, heaven help us all if a company is nice to its employees.  By golly, they need to stop all this employee-friendly stuff and immediately institute draconian, turn of the century work conditions.  Because WE ALL KNOW that productivity only occurs between 8AM - 5PM, and only when the boss is watching over you.  Anything you do after those hours, even if it earns the company millions, is &quot;luck&quot; and shouldn&#039;t be counted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, heaven help us all if a company is nice to its employees.  By golly, they need to stop all this employee-friendly stuff and immediately institute draconian, turn of the century work conditions.  Because WE ALL KNOW that productivity only occurs between 8AM &#8211; 5PM, and only when the boss is watching over you.  Anything you do after those hours, even if it earns the company millions, is &#8220;luck&#8221; and shouldn&#8217;t be counted.</p>
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		<title>By: meehawl &#187; Hot Off the Presses</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-332535</link>
		<dc:creator>meehawl &#187; Hot Off the Presses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of course, doing some PR for Costello&#8217;s lamentably spelled Cuil, and churning out the usual Naif-in-Hy-Brasil copy that a certain class of Irish readers favour as a framing device for the rather more complex [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of course, doing some PR for Costello&#8217;s lamentably spelled Cuil, and churning out the usual Naif-in-Hy-Brasil copy that a certain class of Irish readers favour as a framing device for the rather more complex [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-310368</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a 2000 article The Dark Side of the Valley

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_29/b3690082.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a 2000 article The Dark Side of the Valley</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_29/b3690082.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_29/b3690082.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-310338</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason EI urge a presence in the Valley is for VC purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason EI urge a presence in the Valley is for VC purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/06/17/life-in-the-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-310240</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well you might as well get it right. He is a VP at HP Services not the CTO of HP. Not that a $17BN organisation is something to be sniffed at, don&#039;t get me wrong. 

Electron, the valley is a huge talent pool and an incredibly fertile place for the exchange of ideas and for meeting and hiring the brightest minds on the planet. You don&#039;t have to be there, but it helps. I have never quite got why Irish businesses tend to open sales offices there though or why EI encourages it. If you are only selling to other IT organisations then you have missed your market a bit.  Sales people are among the least likely to benefit from being there. 

There is also an argument that it tends to restrict thinking. For example VCs jump on the &#039;next big thing&#039; and direct investment at it (social networking currently) and away from what might actually be better ideas. There are assumed truisms also that rarely get challenged (google owns search, MS owns the desktop, Oracle owns the server etc) so the challenges to these orthodoxies (Ubuntu, Firefox, MySQL) get developed outside the valley. 

Ireland has a pretty poor talent pool and getting worse if it can&#039;t attract migrants. You can get around this by remote working as you demonstrate but the face to face cross fertilisation is not there and this is evidenced by the complete failure of any Irish companies to emerge and survive on a global scale despite 20 to 30 years of domestic and foreign investment. 

the UK is similar. I can only think of Sage which is largely a domestic success story anyhow and insignificant globally. Yet the valley churns out $1bn organisations almost annually it seems and makes it look easy whereas the evidence from everywhere else is that it is extremely hard. That&#039;s special and ambitious people will want to go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you might as well get it right. He is a VP at HP Services not the CTO of HP. Not that a $17BN organisation is something to be sniffed at, don&#8217;t get me wrong. </p>
<p>Electron, the valley is a huge talent pool and an incredibly fertile place for the exchange of ideas and for meeting and hiring the brightest minds on the planet. You don&#8217;t have to be there, but it helps. I have never quite got why Irish businesses tend to open sales offices there though or why EI encourages it. If you are only selling to other IT organisations then you have missed your market a bit.  Sales people are among the least likely to benefit from being there. </p>
<p>There is also an argument that it tends to restrict thinking. For example VCs jump on the &#8216;next big thing&#8217; and direct investment at it (social networking currently) and away from what might actually be better ideas. There are assumed truisms also that rarely get challenged (google owns search, MS owns the desktop, Oracle owns the server etc) so the challenges to these orthodoxies (Ubuntu, Firefox, MySQL) get developed outside the valley. </p>
<p>Ireland has a pretty poor talent pool and getting worse if it can&#8217;t attract migrants. You can get around this by remote working as you demonstrate but the face to face cross fertilisation is not there and this is evidenced by the complete failure of any Irish companies to emerge and survive on a global scale despite 20 to 30 years of domestic and foreign investment. </p>
<p>the UK is similar. I can only think of Sage which is largely a domestic success story anyhow and insignificant globally. Yet the valley churns out $1bn organisations almost annually it seems and makes it look easy whereas the evidence from everywhere else is that it is extremely hard. That&#8217;s special and ambitious people will want to go there.</p>
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