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	<title>Comments on: More Lisbon</title>
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		<title>By: Marcas MacCaoimhin</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-334207</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcas MacCaoimhin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you still think he was wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you still think he was wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: R E Thornton</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-334160</link>
		<dc:creator>R E Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the 28th Amendment of the Irish Constitution (section 4 subsection 10) to wit &quot;No provision of this Constitution invalidates laws enacted, acts done or measures adopted by the State which are necessitated by the obligations of membership of the European Union or of the Communities,or by institutions thereof,or by bodies competent under the Treaties establishing the Communities,from having force of law in the State&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the 28th Amendment of the Irish Constitution (section 4 subsection 10) to wit &#8220;No provision of this Constitution invalidates laws enacted, acts done or measures adopted by the State which are necessitated by the obligations of membership of the European Union or of the Communities,or by institutions thereof,or by bodies competent under the Treaties establishing the Communities,from having force of law in the State&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Higgins.eu</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-334152</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Higgins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late, but this point by Alan Dukes was answered at the time. 

&quot;Lisbon removes this veto. Lisbon says: ‘For the negotiation and conclusion of the agreements referred to in paragraph 3, , the Council shall act by a qualified majority.’ Veto gone!

There are two exceptions where the Veto would remain: ‘in the field of trade in cultural and audiovisual services, where these agreements risk prejudicing the Union’s cultural and linguistic diversity; and ‘in the field of trade in social, education and health services, where these agreements risk seriously disturbing the national organisation of such services and prejudicing the responsibility of Member States to deliver them.’

These are exceptions written into Lisbon, not a continuation of the existing comprehensive veto which the ‘Yes’ side is trying to maintain&quot;. Full post on this issue on candidate watch: http://www.candidatewatch.ie/joe_higgins-30374-22148--f190140.html#q190140</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late, but this point by Alan Dukes was answered at the time. </p>
<p>&#8220;Lisbon removes this veto. Lisbon says: ‘For the negotiation and conclusion of the agreements referred to in paragraph 3, , the Council shall act by a qualified majority.’ Veto gone!</p>
<p>There are two exceptions where the Veto would remain: ‘in the field of trade in cultural and audiovisual services, where these agreements risk prejudicing the Union’s cultural and linguistic diversity; and ‘in the field of trade in social, education and health services, where these agreements risk seriously disturbing the national organisation of such services and prejudicing the responsibility of Member States to deliver them.’</p>
<p>These are exceptions written into Lisbon, not a continuation of the existing comprehensive veto which the ‘Yes’ side is trying to maintain&#8221;. Full post on this issue on candidate watch: <a href="http://www.candidatewatch.ie/joe_higgins-30374-22148--f190140.html#q190140" rel="nofollow">http://www.candidatewatch.ie/joe_higgins-30374-22148&#8211;f190140.html#q190140</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Crewser</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296321</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crewser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy to be critical then I guess.</description>
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		<title>By: crocodile</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296312</link>
		<dc:creator>crocodile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never driven at all, actually, and doubt if I ever will, now that I know the rules of the road apply only to FG voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never driven at all, actually, and doubt if I ever will, now that I know the rules of the road apply only to FG voters.</p>
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		<title>By: The Crewser</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296284</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crewser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really, just more of the same old stuff I have come to expect. But really Crocodile you must be a particularly boring old fart if you never drove your car when you had a couple of glasses of Wine. But then maybe you are perfect like Enda Kenny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really, just more of the same old stuff I have come to expect. But really Crocodile you must be a particularly boring old fart if you never drove your car when you had a couple of glasses of Wine. But then maybe you are perfect like Enda Kenny.</p>
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		<title>By: crocodile</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296280</link>
		<dc:creator>crocodile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! Touched a nerve there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! Touched a nerve there.</p>
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		<title>By: The Crewser</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296247</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crewser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont get me started Crocodile. As you well know being arrested for drunk driving is not the same as being convicted of anything. But thats typical of you and your cronies, convicting and judging people before they get due process unless of course their name is Devitt of course. Interesting though that you and those same cronies had no problem with Tom Gilmartin attempting to frame anybody and everybody because of his own failures as a developer. Oh and thats right, the Mahon Tribunal made him their star witness and gave him immunity. Noteworthy too that neither you nor Sarah had the slightest problem with Enda Kenny&#039;s apparent condoning of Ms Devitts taking of money for &quot;work done&quot;  But you said it Crocodile, Hypocrisy is the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont get me started Crocodile. As you well know being arrested for drunk driving is not the same as being convicted of anything. But thats typical of you and your cronies, convicting and judging people before they get due process unless of course their name is Devitt of course. Interesting though that you and those same cronies had no problem with Tom Gilmartin attempting to frame anybody and everybody because of his own failures as a developer. Oh and thats right, the Mahon Tribunal made him their star witness and gave him immunity. Noteworthy too that neither you nor Sarah had the slightest problem with Enda Kenny&#8217;s apparent condoning of Ms Devitts taking of money for &#8220;work done&#8221;  But you said it Crocodile, Hypocrisy is the word.</p>
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		<title>By: crocodile</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-296196</link>
		<dc:creator>crocodile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see FF TD Christy O&#039;Sullivan was arrested for drink-driving. Crewser will say that&#039;s ok,though, because Fine Gael Tipperary councillor Michael Fitzgerald has a drink-driving conviction. Nobody can criticise O&#039;Sullivan because that might make us guilty of &#039;hypocrisy&#039; which is a bigger sin than endangering peoples&#039; lives on the road, or curruption, or lying under oath....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see FF TD Christy O&#8217;Sullivan was arrested for drink-driving. Crewser will say that&#8217;s ok,though, because Fine Gael Tipperary councillor Michael Fitzgerald has a drink-driving conviction. Nobody can criticise O&#8217;Sullivan because that might make us guilty of &#8216;hypocrisy&#8217; which is a bigger sin than endangering peoples&#8217; lives on the road, or curruption, or lying under oath&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Crewser</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2008/05/26/more-lisbon/comment-page-2/#comment-294454</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crewser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still cleverly dodging the issue Crocodile. Clearly you are quite happy with Enda&#039;s handling of the whole affair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still cleverly dodging the issue Crocodile. Clearly you are quite happy with Enda&#8217;s handling of the whole affair.</p>
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