Comments on: The Luck of the Irish http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/ An Irish woman's social, political and domestic commentary Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:50:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Myles http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-165719 Myles Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:15:10 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-165719 Foster IS NOT English. He was born in Waterford and went to Trinity. His father was an Irish teacher. I think Leon's snide comment rather proves Foster's point. Foster IS NOT English. He was born in Waterford and went to Trinity. His father was an Irish teacher.

I think Leon’s snide comment rather proves Foster’s point.

]]> By: Leon http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-155837 Leon Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:14:25 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-155837 Foster is an Englishman; being born in a stable doesn't make one a horse. As such it is no surprise that he is anglocentric. Foster is an Englishman; being born in a stable doesn’t make one a horse.
As such it is no surprise that he is anglocentric.

]]> By: Tomaltach http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-148479 Tomaltach Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:03 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-148479 Anyone read Olivia O'Leary's review of "Luck and the Irish" in the IT a couple of weeks ago. She wasn't overly impressed with Foster's analysis of the changes in Ireland since 1970. If you're bored with debate about the origins of the celtic (seltic!) tiger turn away now. She reckoned he was putting much of it down to good fortune, while ignoring the genuine efforts made by Irish government, Irish agencies (IDA etc), Irish business, and our use of Eu funds, and education yada yada yada. I have always found Foster provocative, but he tends to push the revisionist argument too far. Way too anglocentric. The story of Irish history needed to be rebalanced - from the Christian brother variety, or the latter day SF 800 years of oppression stuff - but much of that rebalance has taken place (perhaps since TW Moody challenged his colleagues to move away from the traditionalist 'history as morality tale' when he said Irish historians needed to wage a "mental war of liberation from servitude to the myth".) BTW, anyone read Foster's new book? For me, not yet, it's at the back of a long (and thanks to the birth of my son, slowly moving) list. :-( but mostly :-) Anyone read Olivia O’Leary’s review of “Luck and the Irish” in the IT a couple of weeks ago. She wasn’t overly impressed with Foster’s analysis of the changes in Ireland since 1970. If you’re bored with debate about the origins of the celtic (seltic!) tiger turn away now. She reckoned he was putting much of it down to good fortune, while ignoring the genuine efforts made by Irish government, Irish agencies (IDA etc), Irish business, and our use of Eu funds, and education yada yada yada.

I have always found Foster provocative, but he tends to push the revisionist argument too far. Way too anglocentric. The story of Irish history needed to be rebalanced – from the Christian brother variety, or the latter day SF 800 years of oppression stuff – but much of that rebalance has taken place (perhaps since TW Moody challenged his colleagues to move away from the traditionalist ‘history as morality tale’ when he said Irish historians needed to wage a “mental war of liberation from servitude to the myth”.)

BTW, anyone read Foster’s new book? For me, not yet, it’s at the back of a long (and thanks to the birth of my son, slowly moving) list. :-( but mostly :-)

]]> By: Betty http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145619 Betty Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:46:19 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145619 Mary O'Rourke P_R_O_N_O_U_N_C_E_S all her words C_O_R_R_E_C_T_L_Y Mary O’Rourke P_R_O_N_O_U_N_C_E_S all her words C_O_R_R_E_C_T_L_Y

]]> By: Joseph http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145537 Joseph Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:05:58 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145537 I still have to say that Tubridy is far worse on TV than radio and I just assumed that was accepted consensus because heretofore I have only heard people say that he was utterly rubbish on TV but less so on radio. I can't believe people can not see how bad he is? He is up there with that guy from the English class which has got ot be the worst piece of garbage since Ed Burns was given a sitcom that was arguably worse. I still have to say that Tubridy is far worse on TV than radio and I just assumed that was accepted consensus because heretofore I have only heard people say that he was utterly rubbish on TV but less so on radio.

I can’t believe people can not see how bad he is? He is up there with that guy from the English class which has got ot be the worst piece of garbage since Ed Burns was given a sitcom that was arguably worse.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145438 Sarah Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:20:03 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145438 oh but last night on the 9pm news Robert Shortt's report opened with There's two things......THERE ARE THERE ARE, when its more than one, THERE ARE. I keep hearing this "there's" business. STOP STOP STOP. THERE ARE!!! oh but last night on the 9pm news Robert Shortt’s report opened with There’s two things……THERE ARE THERE ARE, when its more than one, THERE ARE. I keep hearing this “there’s” business. STOP STOP STOP. THERE ARE!!!

]]> By: Maria http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145437 Maria Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:59:59 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145437 Damn I just posted a long post and it got lost cos I'd entered the email address incorrectly. Sheesh.. Anyone noticed the way they (Anne Doyle & Co) over-pronounce words on the 9o'c news. ISSSue for ishue, sexYOUal for sexual... irritating. Who speaks like that in real life. Tubridy sucks on radio but that could be the format of his programme, always skims the surface - comes across as glib. He's not too bad on TV though, enjoyed Esther Rantzen the other night. Now there's a pro. Damn I just posted a long post and it got lost cos I’d entered the email address incorrectly. Sheesh..

Anyone noticed the way they (Anne Doyle & Co) over-pronounce words on the 9o’c news. ISSSue for ishue, sexYOUal for sexual… irritating. Who speaks like that in real life.

Tubridy sucks on radio but that could be the format of his programme, always skims the surface – comes across as glib. He’s not too bad on TV though, enjoyed Esther Rantzen the other night. Now there’s a pro.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145422 Sarah Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:18:17 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145422 oh dear..that's very harsh. I think he's much better than Kenny on the TV - he's relaxed for starters. And the radio programme I generally enjoy and think its come on hugely in the past year - I just want to be treated with more respect as a listener... oh dear..that’s very harsh. I think he’s much better than Kenny on the TV – he’s relaxed for starters.

And the radio programme I generally enjoy and think its come on hugely in the past year – I just want to be treated with more respect as a listener…

]]> By: Joseph http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145322 Joseph Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:36:47 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145322 "absolutley with you on the Derek Mooney thing. He was just about bearable on Saturday mornings with Mooney Goes Wild when he had Eanna and Richard with him full time to shut him up now and again. Now, however he just prattles on and on and on and on…….. They should call te show Mooney Talks Shite! Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!" Again Simply brilliant! Totally agree! But I am afraid I have to add that I think Ryan Tubridy is even worse and while he may well be a nice guy in real life? He is easily the worst TV person and chat show person I can think of right now. He is bad [very bad] on radio but on TV he is positively the most cringe inducing, annoying and frankly incompetent TV person. His show is show bad it is unreal to watch. He makes sucking up a new art form! But mainly he looks awful sounds awful, has zero charisma and is totally unprofessional. Plus fake and soooooooooo phoney! For example he effectively humiliates many of his guests when he goes into the audience to do his highly embarrassing thing where he first asks someone to get out and side on the ground while he acts luke a total twit and asks people in the audience their name and what do they do! - then makes a stupid comment about this. [Pat Kenny does not do this] All the while the guest is left hanging like a spare tool and often clearly very uncomfortable or even irate at being put in that position. In short Tubridy is a complete disaster and there is no reason on earth that I can think of as to how the hell he is on TV let alone the radio “absolutley with you on the Derek Mooney thing. He was just about bearable on Saturday mornings with Mooney Goes Wild when he had Eanna and Richard with him full time to shut him up now and again. Now, however he just prattles on and on and on and on……..

They should call te show Mooney Talks Shite!

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!”

Again Simply brilliant! Totally agree!

But I am afraid I have to add that I think Ryan Tubridy is even worse and while he may well be a nice guy in real life? He is easily the worst TV person and chat show person I can think of right now.

He is bad [very bad] on radio but on TV he is positively the most cringe inducing, annoying and frankly incompetent TV person. His show is show bad it is unreal to watch. He makes sucking up a new art form! But mainly he looks awful sounds awful, has zero charisma and is totally unprofessional. Plus fake and soooooooooo phoney!

For example he effectively humiliates many of his guests when he goes into the audience to do his highly embarrassing thing where he first asks someone to get out and side on the ground while he acts luke a total twit and asks people in the audience their name and what do they do! – then makes a stupid comment about this. [Pat Kenny does not do this]

All the while the guest is left hanging like a spare tool and often clearly very uncomfortable or even irate at being put in that position.

In short Tubridy is a complete disaster and there is no reason on earth that I can think of as to how the hell he is on TV let alone the radio

]]> By: Joseph http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/comment-page-1/#comment-145320 Joseph Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:21:37 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/11/05/the-luck-of-the-irish/#comment-145320 "I am avoiding Facebook. a) I waste enough time on the Internet b) I know myself - the possibility of obsessing and indulging my paranoia about friends, invitations, who to ask, how to refuse, the possibility of entangling myself with people I am fearful of being entangled with (notwithstanding the possibility of wonderful new entanglements…its just too much. I have neurosis to cope with… c) I think I have quite enough personal information about myself on the Internet thank you very much.. so em, no Facebook for now " Simply brilliant! And so true for so many of us who like to at least try keep our sanity “I am avoiding Facebook.
a) I waste enough time on the Internet
b) I know myself – the possibility of obsessing and indulging my paranoia about friends, invitations, who to ask, how to refuse, the possibility of entangling myself with people I am fearful of being entangled with (notwithstanding the possibility of wonderful new entanglements…its just too much. I have neurosis to cope with…
c) I think I have quite enough personal information about myself on the Internet thank you very much..

so em, no Facebook for now ”

Simply brilliant! And so true for so many of us who like to at least try keep our sanity

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