Comments on: Idiots http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/ An Irish woman's social, political and domestic commentary Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:50:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: leon http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/comment-page-1/#comment-131403 leon Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:27:45 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/#comment-131403 A spastic orgy, now thats different, I bet I can't even find anything like that even on porntube. Theatre? A spastic orgy, now thats different, I bet I can’t even find anything like that even on porntube. Theatre?

]]> By: tom http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/comment-page-1/#comment-128851 tom Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:50:46 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/#comment-128851 "I am done with Chekov" or possible you are done with Chekov fucked up by Brian Friel. “I am done with Chekov”

or possible you are done with Chekov fucked up by Brian Friel.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/comment-page-1/#comment-128533 Sarah Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:47:00 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/#comment-128533 yes it was the Lars Von Trier screenplay. I was out again last night and the talk turned to The Idiots. It is amazingly controversial. Some thought the film had actually been banned here. One of my friends queried the title - even if the project itself had merit, why did they call it the Idiots - that alone was deeply insulting. However based on the conclusion I decided that the point is that other people assume that those with handicap, even if its only "physical" are somehow lacking in humanity and are idiots. The final scene in which the one mentally handicapped woman in the group takes on the challenge the other members of the group were afraid to: "spazzing" in front of her family - proved the point. They had no reaction. She was handicapped and they had such a low estimation of her humanity it didn't occur to them that she had the self awareness to imitate someone else with a different handicap. I found that deeply tragic. But anyway as I say, very challenging but I think it made a good point. The production was pretty cool as they had lots of approaches like using a microphone and singing! Oh and there was man with CP sitting beside us who seemed to enjoy the play very much. Hell of a lot better than Uncle Vanya. I am done with Chekov. Its just tooooo boring. And the Gate keeps using actors I know from Glenroe and Fair City. I can't get past that (my fault I am sure). Owen Roe was excellent as Vanya. yes it was the Lars Von Trier screenplay. I was out again last night and the talk turned to The Idiots. It is amazingly controversial. Some thought the film had actually been banned here. One of my friends queried the title – even if the project itself had merit, why did they call it the Idiots – that alone was deeply insulting. However based on the conclusion I decided that the point is that other people assume that those with handicap, even if its only “physical” are somehow lacking in humanity and are idiots. The final scene in which the one mentally handicapped woman in the group takes on the challenge the other members of the group were afraid to: “spazzing” in front of her family – proved the point. They had no reaction. She was handicapped and they had such a low estimation of her humanity it didn’t occur to them that she had the self awareness to imitate someone else with a different handicap. I found that deeply tragic.
But anyway as I say, very challenging but I think it made a good point.

The production was pretty cool as they had lots of approaches like using a microphone and singing! Oh and there was man with CP sitting beside us who seemed to enjoy the play very much.

Hell of a lot better than Uncle Vanya. I am done with Chekov. Its just tooooo boring. And the Gate keeps using actors I know from Glenroe and Fair City. I can’t get past that (my fault I am sure). Owen Roe was excellent as Vanya.

]]> By: AM in Belgium http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/comment-page-1/#comment-127870 AM in Belgium Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:53:30 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/10/12/idiots/#comment-127870 Lars Von Trier, the Danish director made a film of this about 10 or 11 years ago. It might actually be his screenplay, I don't know. But the film was excellent. I can only imagine that a theatre production would be good too. PS In the film, the orgy wasn't simulated. Caused quite a bit of outrage - even in Denmark where they show hardcore porn on TV at night time. Lars Von Trier, the Danish director made a film of this about 10 or 11 years ago. It might actually be his screenplay, I don’t know.

But the film was excellent. I can only imagine that a theatre production would be good too.

PS In the film, the orgy wasn’t simulated. Caused quite a bit of outrage – even in Denmark where they show hardcore porn on TV at night time.

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