Comments on: Shannon http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/ An Irish woman's social, political and domestic commentary Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:34:24 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99996 John Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:08:12 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99996 FF is in power. FF/PDs privatised Aer Lingus. Once Aer Lingus was privatised the Shannon to Heathrow route was at risk. There is no point in talking about the opposition. FF/PDs made made the decision to privatise.The problems at Shannon stem from that FF/PD decision. The people of the west and mid west want a solution. Otherwise FF face a wipe out in the long term. Blaming the opposition is a red herring. I forecast that government plans to break up the ESB will end in disaster. And I am no socialist. FF is in power. FF/PDs privatised Aer Lingus. Once Aer Lingus was privatised
the Shannon to Heathrow route was at risk. There is no point in talking about the opposition. FF/PDs made made the decision to privatise.The problems at Shannon stem from that FF/PD decision. The people of the west and mid west want a solution. Otherwise FF face a wipe out in the long term. Blaming the opposition is a red herring.
I forecast that government plans to break up the ESB will end in disaster. And I am no socialist.

]]> By: irishpancake http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99947 irishpancake Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:23:49 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99947 see FG document supporting Aer Lingus privatisation here: http://www.finegael.ie//PubUploads/ACF1AC.htm now Sarah, you should check with Olivia Mitchell regarding your new slogan: "Privatisation sucks" I agree with you, but does FG :roll: see FG document supporting Aer Lingus privatisation here:

http://www.finegael.ie//PubUploads/ACF1AC.htm

now Sarah, you should check with Olivia Mitchell regarding your new slogan:

“Privatisation sucks”

I agree with you, but does FG :roll:

]]> By: leon http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99935 leon Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:48:32 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99935 Ten years ago Ireland had one of the lowest eletricity prices in the EU, as Sarah says when the EU required a competitive market the CER was created and raised privces to encourage new entrabnts and obliged ESB to buy electrcity at higher price from these new generators rather than there oen cheaper stations. Prices have been increased several times by the cER to increase new entrant share, and oblige ESB to buy this production above their own. At the same time the government prevemted the ESB expanding overseas, notably into Poland, and insisted that ESB take massive loans to upgrade the distribution network. The network which the governmnet is proposing be removed from ESB. Without government interference, and propabably as a monopoly, ESB electricity prices would be atleast 15% lower and perhaps 25% or more. The false premise that deregulation of airlines works in other industries is utter bollocks, look at bus services in regional towns and cities in the UK since deregulation, look at the brillinat public owned transport systems in France. If the networks is removed from ESB, it is likely that within 10 years the ESB would no longer exist, with electricity in Ireland controlled by EON, Southern & Scottish, or similar, who will extra maximum dividends from this small difficult market. Ten years ago Ireland had one of the lowest eletricity prices in the EU, as Sarah says when the EU required a competitive market the CER was created and raised privces to encourage new entrabnts and obliged ESB to buy electrcity at higher price from these new generators rather than there oen cheaper stations. Prices have been increased several times by the cER to increase new entrant share, and oblige ESB to buy this production above their own.

At the same time the government prevemted the ESB expanding overseas, notably into Poland, and insisted that ESB take massive loans to upgrade the distribution network. The network which the governmnet is proposing be removed from ESB.

Without government interference, and propabably as a monopoly, ESB electricity prices would be atleast 15% lower and perhaps 25% or more. The false premise that deregulation of airlines works in other industries is utter bollocks, look at bus services in regional towns and cities in the UK since deregulation, look at the brillinat public owned transport systems in France.

If the networks is removed from ESB, it is likely that within 10 years the ESB would no longer exist, with electricity in Ireland controlled by EON, Southern & Scottish, or similar, who will extra maximum dividends from this small difficult market.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99738 Sarah Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:31:20 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99738 The Unions are running the ESB but the price of electricity is regulated at an artificially high price in order to encourage competition. It is deliberately set higher by a regulator in order to make it wortwhile for newcomers to the market. Competition now for its own sake rather than for the benefits it can bring to most markets, but not all. The Unions are running the ESB but the price of electricity is regulated at an artificially high price in order to encourage competition. It is deliberately set higher by a regulator in order to make it wortwhile for newcomers to the market. Competition now for its own sake rather than for the benefits it can bring to most markets, but not all.

]]> By: Billy Waters http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99442 Billy Waters Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:11:01 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99442 Ryanair fly to three London airports from Shannon. Aer Lingus flew to one. Get over it. Ryanair fly to three London airports from Shannon. Aer Lingus flew to one. Get over it.

]]> By: andrew http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99430 andrew Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:38:35 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99430 Interesting to hear Olivia Mitchell saying that FG would intervene, while Dempsey says FF can't. Is this ideological blue water at last: Fg to put people before profit? Interesting to hear Olivia Mitchell saying that FG would intervene, while Dempsey says FF can’t. Is this ideological blue water at last: Fg to put people before profit?

]]> By: Betty http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99274 Betty Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:17:45 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99274 We can predict the problems of privitising ESB but retaining it as a semi state company without having to confront a few commercial realities also has very serious problems for consumers and manufacturing.The cost of electricity is a major factor in our high cost base and one of the reasons for losing jobs to lower cost countries. We can predict the problems of privitising ESB but retaining it as a semi state company without having to confront a few commercial realities also has very serious problems for consumers and manufacturing.The cost of electricity is a major factor in our high cost base and one of the reasons for losing jobs to lower cost countries.

]]> By: The Limerick Blogger » Blog Archive » Aer Lingus screws the west: Day 5 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99168 The Limerick Blogger » Blog Archive » Aer Lingus screws the west: Day 5 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:18:02 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99168 [...] Shannon - GUBU [...] [...] Shannon – GUBU [...]

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99100 Sarah Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:06:59 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99100 The government stake is 25 % btw and Ryanair's another 25% and they've offered to co-operate with the government on a board vote. What stake do the unions have and will someone remind me what their position re privatisation was? Presumably like their mates in Eircom their members got a tasty windfall...(or rather, like their mates in Eircom about 6 tasty windfalls and still counting...) The government stake is 25 % btw and Ryanair’s another 25% and they’ve offered to co-operate with the government on a board vote. What stake do the unions have and will someone remind me what their position re privatisation was? Presumably like their mates in Eircom their members got a tasty windfall…(or rather, like their mates in Eircom about 6 tasty windfalls and still counting…)

]]> By: Sarah http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/comment-page-1/#comment-99098 Sarah Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:06:06 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2007/08/10/shannon/#comment-99098 Don't forget the massive inbound tourism dividend. How much easier to get people to the west when they fly there direct from a Heathrow international connection. It makes a mockery of 50 years of government industrial and tourism investment in Shannon. Don’t forget the massive inbound tourism dividend. How much easier to get people to the west when they fly there direct from a Heathrow international connection. It makes a mockery of 50 years of government industrial and tourism investment in Shannon.

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