Comments on: Can we do without Irish? http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/ An Irish woman's social, political and domestic commentary Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:50:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-40405 Darren Mac an Phríora Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:38:10 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-40405 I think I remember reading about your petition on another website. Its been going for a year of two now hasn't it? Why do you need 1000 signatures? Over 11,000 people have already signed the Glór na nGael petition saying that it should be required for the L. Cert- even though most people, like myself, find their tactics distasteful and have not done so. Three opinion polls asking young people in the 15-24 age group all said that a majority are in favour of it being required. I know there are people like you out there, but you are in a minority these days a chara. www.petitiononline.com/gaeilge I think I remember reading about your petition on another website. Its been going for a year of two now hasn’t it?

Why do you need 1000 signatures?

Over 11,000 people have already signed the Glór na nGael petition saying that it should be required for the L. Cert- even though most people, like myself, find their tactics distasteful and have not done so.

Three opinion polls asking young people in the 15-24 age group all said that a majority are in favour of it being required. I know there are people like you out there, but you are in a minority these days a chara.

http://www.petitiononline.com/gaeilge

]]> By: shane connolly http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-40390 shane connolly Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:15:57 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-40390 hi guys im 13 and despise irish. ever since i was in first class i despised it i asked why we were learning it and what good it wood ever be. some people actually believe it will be revived it wont your idiots if you think that. the only way it would is if perants speak it to their children at home as a first language all the children who learn it hate it. it should not be compulsary for the leaving cert if it wasnt you could study another subject. so what i really want to say is i have started a petition on it. i need 1000 signatures and have 570 already will you help me if you want to call my house phone on 4902625 or my mobile on 0879129041 i can post you an official piece of paper which you can sign an send back or i can send you one to get people to sign thanks guys hi guys im 13 and despise irish. ever since i was in first class i despised it i asked why we were learning it and what good it wood ever be. some people actually believe it will be revived it wont your idiots if you think that. the only way it would is if perants speak it to their children at home as a first language all the children who learn it hate it. it should not be compulsary for the leaving cert if it wasnt you could study another subject. so what i really want to say is i have started a petition on it. i need 1000 signatures and have 570 already will you help me if you want to call my house phone on 4902625 or my mobile on 0879129041 i can post you an official piece of paper which you can sign an send back or i can send you one to get people to sign thanks guys

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26561 Darren Mac an Phríora Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:09:15 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26561 There are loads of things happening nationwide regarding the language. Ironically, most Irish people are getting impatient with the Irish language movement because they want more to be done. There are loads of things happening nationwide regarding the language. Ironically, most Irish people are getting impatient with the Irish language movement because they want more to be done.

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26560 Darren Mac an Phríora Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:06:29 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26560 There are other initiatives that are marketing the language. Re: social measures: I know that there are arguments for social housing in the Gaeltacht because the situation at the moment is that many young people have to leave the areas because they cannot afford to buy a house. There are pubs etc. outside of the Gaeltacht where Irish is mostly used. But there aren't enough of them and the marketing isnt being done properly so even if there was they wouldn't get loads of business. There are other initiatives that are marketing the language.

Re: social measures: I know that there are arguments for social housing in the Gaeltacht because the situation at the moment is that many young people have to leave the areas because they cannot afford to buy a house.

There are pubs etc. outside of the Gaeltacht where Irish is mostly used. But there aren’t enough of them and the marketing isnt being done properly so even if there was they wouldn’t get loads of business.

]]> By: Jean Garnier http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26557 Jean Garnier Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:51:52 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26557 Well, that's a nice step. But is it the whole schedule? Are there any others nationwide planned measures (social, in particular) ? Well, that’s a nice step. But is it the whole schedule? Are there any others nationwide planned measures (social, in particular) ?

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26171 Darren Mac an Phríora Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:29:50 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26171 Yea, we aren't pushing for that law though. I spoke to the Minister for Environment about it and he said only the Councils- in the development plans- have the power to do that. We made a presentation to the Special Planning Committe in Dublin City Council a few months ago on it. The policy is in place in Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council. As of last week 213 Irish names are is use in developments throughout the country through us. When you add the developments from Galway, Clare and the developments we don't know about we could say that there are over 400 developments in Ireland named in Irish. Thats good for a small island where the building industry has only got big in the last 10 years. Yea, we aren’t pushing for that law though. I spoke to the Minister for Environment about it and he said only the Councils- in the development plans- have the power to do that.

We made a presentation to the Special Planning Committe in Dublin City Council a few months ago on it. The policy is in place in Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council. As of last week 213 Irish names are is use in developments throughout the country through us. When you add the developments from Galway, Clare and the developments we don’t know about we could say that there are over 400 developments in Ireland named in Irish. Thats good for a small island where the building industry has only got big in the last 10 years.

]]> By: Jean Garnier http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26109 Jean Garnier Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:02:59 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26109 Nice article showing precisely the Irish paradox! The majority still wants the practice of Irish to grow up but roughly refuses the changes that are made for it. Nevertheless I think one's must always distinguish social & general measures (which are good) from coercion to individuals (which is the beginning of bad attitude). Nice article showing precisely the Irish paradox! The majority still wants the practice of Irish to grow up but roughly refuses the changes that are made for it.

Nevertheless I think one’s must always distinguish social & general measures (which are good) from coercion to individuals (which is the beginning of bad attitude).

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26080 Darren Mac an Phríora Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:41:49 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26080 Here's an article about my organisation from the Sunday Times last year. They only put it up on the net recently for some reason!!! www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2098-1639173,00.html Here’s an article about my organisation from the Sunday Times last year. They only put it up on the net recently for some reason!!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2098-1639173,00.html

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26064 Darren Mac an Phríora Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:37:55 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26064 "Wales and Canada are excellent for bilingual policy" I should change that. I know there are still some problems in Wales regarding bilingual policies. Both Wales and Canada have a lot of experience though. “Wales and Canada are excellent for bilingual policy”

I should change that. I know there are still some problems in Wales regarding bilingual policies. Both Wales and Canada have a lot of experience though.

]]> By: Darren Mac an Phríora http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/comment-page-2/#comment-26045 Darren Mac an Phríora Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:34:27 +0000 http://www.sarahcarey.ie/2006/08/03/can-we-do-without-irish/#comment-26045 Yes there are. Wales and Canada are excellent for bilingual policy, and we actually look to these countries most in relation to our Official Languages Act. Also, our Language Commissioner knows their respective Language Commissioners. The Candadian Langauge Commissioner was actually only in Ireland last week!!! The biggest thing that is f*cking things up at the moment is the extremist end of the Irish langauge movement. I am glad that they have been indentified in the current language debate about Irish for the L. Cert. Now we know who to deal with, and who has to be dealt with. FG will be bringing out a range of policies on the language over the next few months. I think they are waiting for the Govt. statement on the language though, which should have come out a few months ago I believe. Ive actually been working with Cllr. Naoise O Muirí from FG a lot in respect of who are the good and bad Irish language organisation and groups. Yous had better refer to us in your statement!!! For someome who doesnt even like FG overall Ive actually probably had more input into their research ó thaobh na Gaeilge than anyone else Yes there are. Wales and Canada are excellent for bilingual policy, and we actually look to these countries most in relation to our Official Languages Act. Also, our Language Commissioner knows their respective Language Commissioners. The Candadian Langauge Commissioner was actually only in Ireland last week!!!

The biggest thing that is f*cking things up at the moment is the extremist end of the Irish langauge movement. I am glad that they have been indentified in the current language debate about Irish for the L. Cert. Now we know who to deal with, and who has to be dealt with.

FG will be bringing out a range of policies on the language over the next few months. I think they are waiting for the Govt. statement on the language though, which should have come out a few months ago I believe.

Ive actually been working with Cllr. Naoise O Muirí from FG a lot in respect of who are the good and bad Irish language organisation and groups. Yous had better refer to us in your statement!!! For someome who doesnt even like FG overall Ive actually probably had more input into their research ó thaobh na Gaeilge than anyone else

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