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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He killed a child. Any normal person who did that would break down immediately to their own parents for family. He displayed a CHILLING aspect to his character to take a week to admit it and show his face to Robert&#039;s parents during that period.

Something isn&#039;t right with this story. But in any case, 3 years for taking the life of a child is a disgrace. Let&#039;s assume for once second there was something sinister in this death, what message does it send out to others in Ireland who might kill children? Get a good lawyer and, even though it&#039;s proven you killed a child, you get out in 3 years? It&#039;s a joke.

Justice for Robert&#039;s parents meant this guy should pay for his sin with at least 10 years in jail. Is a child&#039;s life so meaningless to our judicial system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He killed a child. Any normal person who did that would break down immediately to their own parents for family. He displayed a CHILLING aspect to his character to take a week to admit it and show his face to Robert&#8217;s parents during that period.</p>
<p>Something isn&#8217;t right with this story. But in any case, 3 years for taking the life of a child is a disgrace. Let&#8217;s assume for once second there was something sinister in this death, what message does it send out to others in Ireland who might kill children? Get a good lawyer and, even though it&#8217;s proven you killed a child, you get out in 3 years? It&#8217;s a joke.</p>
<p>Justice for Robert&#8217;s parents meant this guy should pay for his sin with at least 10 years in jail. Is a child&#8217;s life so meaningless to our judicial system.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m roberts 3rd cousin. I just happen to come accross this page when I was showing someone a link to the case. Well let me start by saying that I don&#039;t like sara&#039;s comments. Or at least the words she uses. She seems closed minded. For one, you forget to mention that there was no evidence at all that Robert was outside, throwing stones at his car. That everything that wayne said, was taken into account. Your failure, in yourself, is your belief that he isn&#039;t a pervert. I&#039;m not saying he isn&#039;t or he is, as I don&#039;t see enough evidence to suggest either way. Also you condem the papers,  which to be fair your right to. They can be very one sided at the best of times and their headlines can range from Outrageous to a outlandish lie. Unfortuntly your doing the exact same thing. Your just pinpointing it as if your defending for him. As you said &quot;the whole point is that Wayne is not a pervert&quot;. What a close minded sentence that is. You might think now, because i&#039;m his cousin, that I&#039;m going to be on the opposite with a pitch fork demanding justice, which would be the first opinion of most people. Wrong. I&#039;m an intelligent open minded person, and although I do hate Wayne for what he did, i hate the justice system just as much and the way this case was handled. What gives a judge the right to hand down a 4 year sentence (1 year got suspended if i recall) because he thought that he sincerely didn&#039;t mean it... His opinion based on current evidence it seems, which is why this system fails as judges have too much power. And as I said, i hate wayne simply because he took a young life away, because he participated in a search for robert, because he tryed to dump the body and burn it and he tryed to get away. And this is what makes me so sad, that people don&#039;t realise what would&#039;v happend if Wayne O&#039;Donoghue did get away with it. Would we ever find out about robert? And even now, will we ever know what really happend? And incase someone comments to say that i&#039;m one sided because I hate Donoghue because he took the life out of someone, accident or  no accident. Family or no family. Doesn&#039;t matter. What matters is that i&#039;m strong enough to remain opened minded to the case. But i&#039;m not strong enough, to have any more faith in the justice in this country and many other places. I&#039;m not strong enough to hear anymore storys of non-existent evidence. Theres a current trend in place right now, and that trend is still in place. What is it? It&#039;s not guilty to murder, but guilty of manslaughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m roberts 3rd cousin. I just happen to come accross this page when I was showing someone a link to the case. Well let me start by saying that I don&#8217;t like sara&#8217;s comments. Or at least the words she uses. She seems closed minded. For one, you forget to mention that there was no evidence at all that Robert was outside, throwing stones at his car. That everything that wayne said, was taken into account. Your failure, in yourself, is your belief that he isn&#8217;t a pervert. I&#8217;m not saying he isn&#8217;t or he is, as I don&#8217;t see enough evidence to suggest either way. Also you condem the papers,  which to be fair your right to. They can be very one sided at the best of times and their headlines can range from Outrageous to a outlandish lie. Unfortuntly your doing the exact same thing. Your just pinpointing it as if your defending for him. As you said &#8220;the whole point is that Wayne is not a pervert&#8221;. What a close minded sentence that is. You might think now, because i&#8217;m his cousin, that I&#8217;m going to be on the opposite with a pitch fork demanding justice, which would be the first opinion of most people. Wrong. I&#8217;m an intelligent open minded person, and although I do hate Wayne for what he did, i hate the justice system just as much and the way this case was handled. What gives a judge the right to hand down a 4 year sentence (1 year got suspended if i recall) because he thought that he sincerely didn&#8217;t mean it&#8230; His opinion based on current evidence it seems, which is why this system fails as judges have too much power. And as I said, i hate wayne simply because he took a young life away, because he participated in a search for robert, because he tryed to dump the body and burn it and he tryed to get away. And this is what makes me so sad, that people don&#8217;t realise what would&#8217;v happend if Wayne O&#8217;Donoghue did get away with it. Would we ever find out about robert? And even now, will we ever know what really happend? And incase someone comments to say that i&#8217;m one sided because I hate Donoghue because he took the life out of someone, accident or  no accident. Family or no family. Doesn&#8217;t matter. What matters is that i&#8217;m strong enough to remain opened minded to the case. But i&#8217;m not strong enough, to have any more faith in the justice in this country and many other places. I&#8217;m not strong enough to hear anymore storys of non-existent evidence. Theres a current trend in place right now, and that trend is still in place. What is it? It&#8217;s not guilty to murder, but guilty of manslaughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How these things linger...to Nameless, I don&#039;t think anyone here has accused Majella of lying - she didn&#039;t make up the pieces of &quot;evidence&quot; - she just clearly fails to accept the innocent explanations for them.
To Pauline, Lisa etc, the whole point is that Wayne is not a pervert. There is no evidence whatsoever for there being any sexual aspect to Robert&#039;s death. He killed a child and that is a terrible thing, but let&#039;s save our condemnation for what he did not for what people suspect he might have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How these things linger&#8230;to Nameless, I don&#8217;t think anyone here has accused Majella of lying &#8211; she didn&#8217;t make up the pieces of &#8220;evidence&#8221; &#8211; she just clearly fails to accept the innocent explanations for them.<br />
To Pauline, Lisa etc, the whole point is that Wayne is not a pervert. There is no evidence whatsoever for there being any sexual aspect to Robert&#8217;s death. He killed a child and that is a terrible thing, but let&#8217;s save our condemnation for what he did not for what people suspect he might have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nameless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Robert. I hung around with him occaisionly in an estate nearby. We were not close but i knew him and he was some laugh. A really nice kid. 
I also knew Majella to some certain extent. She is a kindhearted women who loves all her children very much. 
Note that the following isn&#039;t proven by source but is clearly my point of veiw based on my &quot;relationship&quot; with Robert:-
To all who think Majella is lying, you&#039;re wrong. She wouldn&#039;t make something like that up JUST to make sure HE gets a longer jail sentence. 
Majella knows what it is like to lose a child and she would NOT put another family through the same. All she wants is justice for her son. We all do, and we&#039;ll get it.
Yes, i pity Waynes family....i&#039;m sure Majella does too which is why this is all the harder on the grieving Mother.
You may all think i&#039;m crazy because of what i am saying but trust me, i knew him, his brother and sister, and Majella for 6years.
This is not why i am standing up for Majella however, although some of you may think that is the reason. I&#039;m am standing up for her because it is what i believe is right. If i thought Wayne O&#039; Donoghue was in the right, i&#039;d be speaking now on HIS behalf. 
I am 16 years of age and I know the difference between moral and immoral say.
I just wanted to have my say.
Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Robert. I hung around with him occaisionly in an estate nearby. We were not close but i knew him and he was some laugh. A really nice kid.<br />
I also knew Majella to some certain extent. She is a kindhearted women who loves all her children very much.<br />
Note that the following isn&#8217;t proven by source but is clearly my point of veiw based on my &#8220;relationship&#8221; with Robert:-<br />
To all who think Majella is lying, you&#8217;re wrong. She wouldn&#8217;t make something like that up JUST to make sure HE gets a longer jail sentence.<br />
Majella knows what it is like to lose a child and she would NOT put another family through the same. All she wants is justice for her son. We all do, and we&#8217;ll get it.<br />
Yes, i pity Waynes family&#8230;.i&#8217;m sure Majella does too which is why this is all the harder on the grieving Mother.<br />
You may all think i&#8217;m crazy because of what i am saying but trust me, i knew him, his brother and sister, and Majella for 6years.<br />
This is not why i am standing up for Majella however, although some of you may think that is the reason. I&#8217;m am standing up for her because it is what i believe is right. If i thought Wayne O&#8217; Donoghue was in the right, i&#8217;d be speaking now on HIS behalf.<br />
I am 16 years of age and I know the difference between moral and immoral say.<br />
I just wanted to have my say.<br />
Thank You.</p>
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		<title>By: pauline</title>
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		<dc:creator>pauline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that the death of robert was terrible and that wayne o donough should be put away forever because its not right doing things like that to young children. you never know when he gets out in four years time that he wont do it again but you hear of loads of people doing it again. and thats a terrible thing for roberts parents to be going through and to be thinking that in four years time that their sons murder will be out in only fours time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that the death of robert was terrible and that wayne o donough should be put away forever because its not right doing things like that to young children. you never know when he gets out in four years time that he wont do it again but you hear of loads of people doing it again. and thats a terrible thing for roberts parents to be going through and to be thinking that in four years time that their sons murder will be out in only fours time</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its an obsolute Disgrace that he got only 4 years. FOR heavens sake Robert was a child.. and he is an adult (a very stupid one) he should be hung.. Who the hell does he think he is takin a young boys life, THROWING STONES AT A CAR AND THEIR WAS NO DAMAGE ON IT COME THE HELL ON,  there is worse stuff that youngsters are doing these days. id spit in his face if i ever saw that pervert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its an obsolute Disgrace that he got only 4 years. FOR heavens sake Robert was a child.. and he is an adult (a very stupid one) he should be hung.. Who the hell does he think he is takin a young boys life, THROWING STONES AT A CAR AND THEIR WAS NO DAMAGE ON IT COME THE HELL ON,  there is worse stuff that youngsters are doing these days. id spit in his face if i ever saw that pervert.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to England before the trial and am now just catching up.
4 years is a disgrace for anyone who has killed. We all do things in the heat of the moment but ask yourselves honestly what would it take for you to actually kill someone? How far would they have to push you before you strangled them? 

Let&#039;s not cast aspertions on what was going on at the time of the killing- we will never know, the point is this killer went to far and jail is where he should stay for longer than 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to England before the trial and am now just catching up.<br />
4 years is a disgrace for anyone who has killed. We all do things in the heat of the moment but ask yourselves honestly what would it take for you to actually kill someone? How far would they have to push you before you strangled them? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not cast aspertions on what was going on at the time of the killing- we will never know, the point is this killer went to far and jail is where he should stay for longer than 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello  All
  There  was  very  minimal  evidence of  sex  abuse. even  if  there  was  evidence  of a  minimal  amount  Wayne&#039;s  semen  on  Robert&#039;s  palm  it   might  mean  little. he  was in and  out  of the  Donoghue household regular  and  could  have  contaced  this  by  casual contact...if all our  hands  were  subjected to  microscopic  examination  we  might  be  very  surprised  at the result.  conviction  on  the  basis  of forensic  evidence  is &#039;dicey&#039; as  The Birminham  6  and  Guiford 4  cases  proved  before. Anyway  international   experts  cast doubts  on  the  method used  in  this  case
  as regards  the 999 call  how  come  Rob  never  told  his  Parents  and  continued  going  back  to  WODs house  if  it  was  genuine  anyway  why  didnt  the  emergency  services  follow  up  the calls.  Based  on an  article  in The Sunday Independant  rob slept on the  sleeep  over  where  he  was supposed  to  have  and  did  not leave until  9 am  and there is evidence  the said  picture  was  taken  at 7 pm so  that    the  &#039;6am call&#039;  is also  wrong. i agree  the  coverage  was  scurrilous. yesterday  a  man  who  hit  his  father  65  times  with   and a hammer was  sentenced to  life  for  his  murder.  this  most  heinous  got  front  page  coverage  in no  national  newspaper (tabloid  or 0therwise)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello  All<br />
  There  was  very  minimal  evidence of  sex  abuse. even  if  there  was  evidence  of a  minimal  amount  Wayne&#8217;s  semen  on  Robert&#8217;s  palm  it   might  mean  little. he  was in and  out  of the  Donoghue household regular  and  could  have  contaced  this  by  casual contact&#8230;if all our  hands  were  subjected to  microscopic  examination  we  might  be  very  surprised  at the result.  conviction  on  the  basis  of forensic  evidence  is &#8216;dicey&#8217; as  The Birminham  6  and  Guiford 4  cases  proved  before. Anyway  international   experts  cast doubts  on  the  method used  in  this  case<br />
  as regards  the 999 call  how  come  Rob  never  told  his  Parents  and  continued  going  back  to  WODs house  if  it  was  genuine  anyway  why  didnt  the  emergency  services  follow  up  the calls.  Based  on an  article  in The Sunday Independant  rob slept on the  sleeep  over  where  he  was supposed  to  have  and  did  not leave until  9 am  and there is evidence  the said  picture  was  taken  at 7 pm so  that    the  &#8217;6am call&#8217;  is also  wrong. i agree  the  coverage  was  scurrilous. yesterday  a  man  who  hit  his  father  65  times  with   and a hammer was  sentenced to  life  for  his  murder.  this  most  heinous  got  front  page  coverage  in no  national  newspaper (tabloid  or 0therwise)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to  carol
  u  dont  know  how  u  might  have  reacted.  with  the  likes  of  u  mary  magdelen  would  have  been  stoned  to  death.  u  are  1  of  those  who  never  sinned or  even  made  a  mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to  carol<br />
  u  dont  know  how  u  might  have  reacted.  with  the  likes  of  u  mary  magdelen  would  have  been  stoned  to  death.  u  are  1  of  those  who  never  sinned or  even  made  a  mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throwing stones big deal
No one has the right to take anyones life even for throwing stones.
No marks on the car so it couldnt have been thrown very hard or even big stones.  There is more to it than throwing stones and the big ordeal to discard of the body.  He had no regard for this boy at all you dont do that to someone you care for.  All the searching he did and concern he had for the parents while all the time he knew where that little boy was.
Im sorry 4 yrs for what he did its a shame it could be anyone else&#039;s child next time and what will they get for an accident cause they were throwing stones at the car.
  4 YEARS A JOKE
If it was an accident he should have got help you dont panic and hide the body and burn the body thats not panic is it ???????? and stop for a luccozed on the way....oh maybe he was thirsty..... god help him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing stones big deal<br />
No one has the right to take anyones life even for throwing stones.<br />
No marks on the car so it couldnt have been thrown very hard or even big stones.  There is more to it than throwing stones and the big ordeal to discard of the body.  He had no regard for this boy at all you dont do that to someone you care for.  All the searching he did and concern he had for the parents while all the time he knew where that little boy was.<br />
Im sorry 4 yrs for what he did its a shame it could be anyone else&#8217;s child next time and what will they get for an accident cause they were throwing stones at the car.<br />
  4 YEARS A JOKE<br />
If it was an accident he should have got help you dont panic and hide the body and burn the body thats not panic is it ???????? and stop for a luccozed on the way&#8230;.oh maybe he was thirsty&#8230;.. god help him&#8230;</p>
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